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                     The E-Marketing Digest
                      Volume #2, Issue #56
                          Aug 5, 1997
                    Gary K. Foote, Moderator

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Table of Contents

+ Moderator Comments

    "Moving Blues"

+ New Subjects

    "Make me an offer?"
      - John McCabe

+ The Corkboard

    "MCJ's Electronic Flea Market"
       - Claudia Hafling


                       Moderator Comments

Hi All,

The recent hiatus of this list has been due to the fact that I am
moving and have not had the time to do my daily publishing duties.
I still have another week before I am through, so please bear with me.
Go ahead and send your posts to the usual address and I will assemble
digests as time allows.

Your time-crunched moderator,
Gary K. Foote

                          New Subjects

From: John McCabe 
Subject: Make me an offer?


I've learned a lot from this list, and tried to contribute when
I could. Now I have a couple of questions.

I just started a new service called the Web-Guides Network.
Essentially, members who are appropriate for my audiences get
two web pages (an ad and an advertorial), plugs by me in the
newsgroups and lists I participate in, plus any other perks I
can reasonably give. (More info at For this service, I ask
$250/yr. The price is somewhat arbitrary, but is rooted in the
cost of local print advertising.

So far, the reaction has been either "too pricy" or vast

1. Is $250/yr too high when I can't guarantee results?

2. Has anyone on the list tried a "Make me an offer" type sale?
Did it work? I'm considering such a sale just to get something
for the unused server space I've already paid for. I'd like to
test it with the list members, as they are collectively ahead of
the general net population.

Thanks for a great resource.

Remember, in business, life and love, success is never an accident.

John McCabe-------------------->
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                          The Corkboard

From: Claudia Hafling <102440.51@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: MCJ's Electronic Flea Market

Re: a message appearing in Issue #48, to quote:

"Dear Michael,

The above mentioned site does indeed utilize keyword spamming.
However, as the moderator also noted, I don't believe that should
stop anyone from doing business with them. There are plenty of other
ways for them to get traffic and they obviously have implemented some
of them (I.E. They hired Claudia!). But MCJ Ventures, nor anyone
else, decides how search engines rank pages. They are playing the
game with the cards they've been dealt." (excerpted)
Conrad Dubois Jr."

-------------------- End Original Message --------------------

Dear Gary & Conrad:

I just wanted to let you know that due to the controversy
generated by my original posting of MCJ's Electronic Flea Market
( as a new site on the web, my client,
MCJ Ventures, has dropped the objectionable programming from
the site.  The keyword spamming is no more.

Sam Martin and CJ Anders of MCJ certainly did not mean to
upset or offend anyone with this programming, which was
designed, incidentally, by a programmer working for their
ISP.  Therefore, when they heard that it had upset some
individuals, they instructed the programmer to delete it
from the site.  That has now been done.

I hope interested parties will go ahead and check out
the site without letting Michael's previous objections
color their opinions unduly influence them. It's a
neat little site, growing bigger every day.

Thanks a lot.

Claudia L'Engle Hafling
Media & Marketing Concepts
Full-Service P.R., Advertising and Marketing Agency

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